A Comment on Mi (ani) Marathi


An angry Mr. Vijay Matkari commented on my post Mi (ani) Marathi probably because he thinks I’m demeaning the Marathi people. Here is what he has to say

tu marathi mansala durusta nako karus aadhi swatacha ‘holier than thou’ avtar band kar. what an idiotic post, once again. What do u think of urself? Dont make an ass of urself by such uncool posts. ur seriously an liability on Marathis. I mean look at ur attitude…who the hell are u!!give us a break.

I’m sorry Mr. Matkari but I dont understand. Where the hell you get that anger from? I know you will come back to my blog in search of what my reaction was. If you think I’m a liability on Marathis, please explain me what a true Marathi is and I’ll issue an apology plus delete my posts.

PS: For the non-marathi readers, the first two lines in the comment means dont you try to improve Marathi manoos first stop your ‘holier than thou’ avataar.

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19 thoughts on “A Comment on Mi (ani) Marathi

  1. Why do you care Mayur? You will always find people who think they are the Proponents of some religion, language…. whatever and according to them anybody who acts contrary their beliefs are wrong. Let them keep complaining. Don’t give undue importance to their comments.

    You know you are a Marathi and proud to be one. Just continue being one. He is an apology for a Marathi if he cannot understand his fellow Marathis. He is an apology for a marathi if he can only condemn others words but not think what can he do for the betterment of other marathis.

  2. @author
    Well u were right i came back to see what ur reaction was.

    >>Where the hell you get that anger from?
    From this rants posted by u.
    1)I’m an Indian first, Marathi later (ok for us Marathi first everythings later!)

    2)Mumbai belongs to the Marathi junta and others should not be allowed to dwell here in peace….(1st part is right, others can dwell here if they dont overpower, outsmart, outnumber us.)

    3)Mumbai was inhibited by fishermen who speak konkani >(did ur convent school not teach u history properly? or for south mumbai oops bombay elites and likes, history is changed to suit ur needs) Mumbai’s native koli community as well as agris, pathare prabhus, east indians speak Marathi or a variant of it.

    4)They (britishers) made Mumbai. > (exactly, and not our dear north indian, gujju, marworie, udupi, punju, parsee bros and sisters) So when it comes to Mumbai, its only Marathis and Britishers who would be on table. Others hv no business 2 poke their noses.

    5)due to some shrewed politics from local leaders, Mumbai became part of a larger state ‘Maharashtra’> (shameless statements insulting the martyrs who fought against delhi, evil capitalists and injustice. I feel pity on psudos like u, and many martyrs of Sanyukta Maharashtra movement were migrants who assimilated and gelled with local population, unlike the current lot)

    6)almost all states are either named after their religion (Ex. Karnataka)
    >Religion? Karnataka. Yeah right! WTF!!)

    7)Maharashtra, on the contrary have been named without much logic. It wasn’t the biggest state (remember Nagpur and other adjoining parts were first part of Madhya Pradesh) nor it was a nation (as the name suggests).It was born out of some Marathi protagonist faux imagination and vacuous pride
    >LOL. Kid have u ever heard of Maharashtri Prakrit? or Maharashtri apabhramsha. Or Mahrattas. U no nothing. Marathi is historically spoken all over Mumbai, Konkan, Marathwada, so called west maharashtra, vidarbha, khandesh, entire south Guj and parts of N.Karnataka. Yeah even b4 britishers or portuguese arrived. Even before Bombay scottish was established. before South Mumbai was formed. Maharashra and Marathi have great history behind it. Are u dumb to write such nonsense? WTF dude WTF!!

    If you really want to fight, gun for a national cause>
    Why dont u pull ur socks, Mr.patriotic Indian.

    Prashna ha ahe ki samanya Marathi mansala kasa durusta karta yeil.>
    What an hillarious statement! WHO ARE YOU to durust Marathi manoos? what do u think of urself. What made u think that marathi manoos needs ‘durusti’? what made u think that u r capable of doing it? What made u think that calling names to ur own (?) brethren will elavate u? or earn accolades from outsiders? or will prove dat ur liberal, cosmo, elite south bombayite?
    what makes u think that all maharashtrian mumbaikar luv Thackerays? even if they luv who ru 2 judge their choice? and what abt BJP mass murderers like Narendra Modi and pseudo hindutva champions like advani? Raj Thackeray is misleading us and what r these BJP buggers r doing?

    Ur lawyering for our dear northies,marworie and gujju bros, fine but idiot did u ask them why they term Marathis as ‘ghatis’ out of contempt? Or not allow them in their society bcoz they eat non-veg.
    What makes u think that ur the only marathi who is talking abt share bazaars, entrepreneurship etc? Those who dnt do it are no lesser creatures,mind u! Guy, just shed off this holier than thou attitude. You or for that matter no single individual can ‘durust’ the entire community, if at all they need.

    please explain me what a true Marathi is and I’ll issue an apology plus delete my posts.>
    You will never understand it perhaps. Stop thinking that ur sumbody great and that Marathi community needs directions fm u or ur gujju/marworie/bhaiya et al brethren. Apparently u think ur marathiness is a liab for u, so be it. but dont spew ur venom over net and create disturbances. And congrats u hv already won hearts of our honourable outsider bros by ur anti-marathi rants.
    And yeah i think i am taking it 2 personally, but i dont want ppl to say nonsense and get away with it. Jai Maharashtra. (First Marathi and eveythings’ later!)

  3. You are very ignorant Vijay. Your post angered me and I wanted to write a very strong comment against it but then I thought, would it change anything. You are and will remain an asshole. It is people like you who are a bane to the society. They divide everyone on some pretext or another.
    You have made a point that Mumbai belongs to Marathis and Britishers. So, I guess if by any chance another attack happens on Mumbai then we should not be bothered. And moreover, the Indian government should stop the investigations regarding the Taj Attack because Mumbai and Maharashtra, according to you, are technically not part of India therefore why should we give a damn.
    I am, I was and will always be an Indian. People like you who divide the country sicken me.
    Jai Hind!!

  4. The kind of time and energy you have spent on lobbying about being a marathi first and then anything else… Let me tell you Mr. If you can’t be a good Indian then you are not a true Marathi also… Each one of us are part of the same country and land and if you consider yourself anything else then that’s too sad… consider this hypothetical situation- you travel to any other part of the country and are attacked by militants- the officer who comes to resecue you is a Tamil and asks so are you a Tamil and only then will I save you- and obv you are not..I can bet at that point your ans will be but I am an Indian… Save me!

    Thank God, every Indian does’nt think like you… Go Away, we don’t need your faltoo attitude.

    And since you don’t seem to remember the lyrics and meaning of our National Anthem I am quoting the first para here.. read and realise the value & worth of a nation. I Proud to be an Indian and anything else does not matter

    jana-gana-mana-adhinayaka, jaya he’
    bharata-bhagya-vidhata
    punjab-sindhu-gujarat-maratha-
    dravida-utkala-banga
    vindhya himachala yamuna ganga
    uchchala jaladhi taranga

    english translation & meaning

    Thou art the rulers of the minds of all people,

    dispenser of India’s destiny.

    Thy name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sind, Gujarat and Maratha,

    Of the Dravida and Orissa and Bengal;

    It echoes in the hills of the Vindhyas and Himalayas,

    mingles in the music of Yamuna and Ganga and is chanted by

    the waves of the Indian Sea.

  5. Vijay- I’m sorry if I’m hurting your sentiments. Here is a five pointer from me.

    1) I wasn’t aware of Maharashtri Prakrit. Totally ignorant I must say. So I’m sorry.

    2) So in your opinion, we must have an army for Maharashtra. So that we prevent the so called intruders from coming here and getting better than us. Of course, if Maharashtra is first, why call Indian Army?

    3) If you think Narendra Modi is a mass murderer then Shiv Sena did the same thing here in 1993. BJP is fighting for ‘hindutva’ on a national level where as Thackereys are fighting for Marathi Manoos on a local level. Similar agenda but totally uncalled for. I disagree with them because I do not support the ‘Hate Politics’. Let us not divide and rule. Irrespective of the ethnicity and race, our ancestors as well as we all have contributed to the growth of India. Let us not mud sling it with petty regional politics.

    4) Join politics. I’ll follow you. We can make a great party.

    5) Meet me in person. The debate cannot be settled here on the blog

    I agree that people from outside of Maharashtra (especially young Biharis, if I quote it right) have troubled the local population from time to time. But not every one is like that. Its only a handful of people who contaminate the society. But how right it is to demean a caste because of it? By that equation, if they start hating entire Marathi population outside of Maharashtra, please be ready to accommodate half of Indore, Gwalior and Vadodara. Anyway, you will not understand my point of view, so no point discussing it.

    Just one question? Do you think the current racism by some Australians against the Indian population justified? I think yes, because we are trying to outsmart and overpower them. Right?

  6. You have made a point that Mumbai belongs to Marathis and Britishers.
    >>Yes, i said its britishers who developed this island city and Marathis are the original inhabitants of the city.

    I guess if by any chance another attack happens on Mumbai then we should not be bothered.
    >>Dont bother, but at the same time dont bother to take money from here.

    chance another attack happens on Mumbai then we should not be bothered. And moreover, the Indian government should stop the investigations regarding the Taj Attack because Mumbai and Maharashtra, according to you, are technically not part of India therefore why should we give a damn.
    >>What do u think u have done a favour on Mumbai by sending ur commondos? When u loot wealth fm here then u dont have such thoughts. If u really think u hv done a favour, then its better to relieve us! And FYI,i never said Maha is not a part of India, i said only Mumbai’s real owners are us,Maharashtrians.

    Let me tell you Mr. If you can’t be a good Indian then you are not a true Marathi also
    >>For me both identities are important. I wont shed, my Marathi idenity for being an Indian.

    I can bet at that point your ans will be but I am an Indian… Save me!
    >>Probably yes. Its not abt being an Indian, its pure humanity to say and do it. Even if ur friend who calls me asshole is dieing on street, or u, or the owner of this blog i would save them. It doesnt matter if ur an Indian or Pakistani, Marathi or gujarati and so on. Its matter of humanity and compassion. And this is what our culture teaches to us. Pl note than while i am being Maharashtrian zealot, u guys are being Indian jingoists.

    I Proud to be an Indian and anything else does not matter
    >>Why are u not proud as a human being? Whats the problem if i am an Indian and Maharashtrian too? Of course i am proud to be an Indian, but if u tell me to lose my language and culture, i shall not. For me being a Maharashtrian is as important as being an Indian. being a good human is more important. Read: vasundhaiva kutumbakam (meaning-whole universe is my home)

    So in your opinion, we must have an army for Maharashtra. So that we prevent the so called intruders from coming here and getting better than us. Of course, if Maharashtra is first, why call Indian Army?
    >>No i dont mean that. If u think Indian army is doing a favour by defending us, let them give Maha freedom and we can build our own army; idea is urs not mine. Each and everyone is welcome until they know how to respect the local language, culture and people, which are as indian as they are.
    Why call Indian army is because they owe to us as rest of india. Maharashtra generates a lions share of taxesm monetary collections.

    Shiv Sena did the same thing here in 1993.
    >>So what Narendrabhai did was right! waah.

    BJP is fighting for ‘hindutva’ on a national level where as Thackereys are fighting for Marathi Manoos on a local level.
    >>Its ur own point of view. For me Marathi manoos is important, for u hindutva is important. BTW indians have overwhelmly dumped BJP’s fraud hindutva on national level!
    And on the other hand regional identities are being expressed more vehemently so as to stop bulldozing Indian vernacular languages, culture and to stop injustice againsts sons of soil.

    But how right it is to demean a caste because of it? By that equation, if they start hating entire Marathi population outside of Maharashtra, please be ready to accommodate half of Indore, Gwalior and Vadodara
    >>Do u know how Marathis went to Indore, Gwalior and Baroda? Do u know they have adopted the language and customs of the local populace? Migration is not a problem as much as indifference, not assimilating, outnumbering, overpowering and outsmarting.

    Meet me in person. The debate cannot be settled here on the blog
    >>Nothing is acceptable and debatable about Samyukta Maharashtra govt. U have no right to disrespect the martyrs who gave their lives to create the state.Ur comments on them are unfortunate and preposterous.

    Do you think the current racism by some Australians against the Indian population justified? I think yes, because we are trying to outsmart and overpower them. Right?
    >>Yes by all means. Violent attacks are unfortunate but Indians should stop considering australia as their baap’s mal and behave arrograntly and indifferentlythere. Respecting, assimilating, gelling with local poplation, customs is extremely important. It is not Mumbai which will accept their foul mouthed Hindi, demeaning locals and having a fall sense of ‘owning that place’. Not all are accomodative and considerate like we Mumbaikars, right Mayur?

  7. They divide everyone on some pretext or another.
    >>Prateek if i am dividing on pretext of Marathi and non-marathi, what is the author, Pallavi and ur doing? u know what, ur doing the same thing! Ur diving between Indians and non-indians. Why dont u love entire humanity? Arent Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Americans, Nepalis, Afghans, Africans, Europeans and so on our own brothers? They are humans too. Why shudnt we open our borders to them? Love all nations alike. Why discriminate on the lines of country? Why not to shed Indianness and be part of greater globalised world and be a world citizen? why not? Why to sing Jana gana mana and not song of entire humanity praising mother earth, Pallavi?

  8. Vijay I think this can go on and on. You will not understand my point of view and I will not budge. We obviously do not want to create internal communal wars. The attitude of hating some body just because he tried to be over smart or offended you by saying/doing something is not right. If we wish to assimilate an outsider into a culture, we should involve them in all that you do. I’m not saying you dont do it. It is just a matter that who extends his hand first.

    People have laid their lives for various causes, not only the samyukta Maharashtra movement. The bomb that went off in trains did not know if he was killing a Marathi or a Gujju. I have witnessed the mayhem on Borivali station myself. I dont know if I helped a Marathi or a gujju or for that matter a Muslim. But I did what I could on that day. But the incidence taught me lessons. If we all dont stand together, there will be War!

    Guys please read your comments up there. There is so much hatred in all of us. Please understand that more violence is not an answer to violence. Otherwise no one will ever be able to sleep in peace.

  9. Mr. Matkari first get beyond region and religion boundaries and be an Indian. I am an Indian and that makes me a part of the world community as well.. I am glad you have decided to look beyond/above your Marathi status and aspire to be a Global Citizen. Become what you have asked us to be and then preach.

    Mayur I agree, we all need to check our levels of anger and hatred… expressing it here shows how vulnerable we all to these things/sentiments!

  10. Mayur being a Mumbaikar urself i dont think u r unaware of genuine concerns of Marathis. Its nothing short of cultural invasion from outsiders. Outsiders rich and poor along with Indian govt’s ‘any indian can go anywhere in india’ diktat just taking over Maharashtra and posing danger to the state, the language and people.

    Pallavi, my culture itself teaches me to be tolerant and accomodative.And it also prescribes to stand up against injustice. we speak Marathi from 1200 years and we are Indians only from 50 years! i am a Maharashtrian and that makes me a part of the World community and india as well. U like millions of others need to look beyond ur ‘Indian first’ jingoism. Dont preach us ur empty Indian rhetorics. Get away from ur Indian obsession!
    Peace.

  11. Vijay. Now you are talking. Earlier on you just barged in shouting angrily at Mayur, which was not acceptable. I called you an asshole in anger which I shouldn’t have therefore I apologize. Ok, your point taken. I don’t know about Maharashtra and Mumbai so I won’t comment on their problems with outsiders. Now, my family belongs to a state called Punjab which makes me a Punjabi and we live in New Delhi. Now there is a fextival called Chhat Puja which people from Bihar celebrate. We had never heard of such a festival until 5 years from now and nowadays it has become such a huge festival that many roads are jammed on that day and the water bodies are clogged. Similarly many cinema halls here now show Bhojpuri movies which we had never heard of. Crime has risen in Delhi and currently Delhi is the crime capital of India and majority of the crimes are done by people from U.P. and Bihar (Bhaiyyas as you would like to call them). Similarly the number of immigrants have increased in Punjab. If you go to any railway station you will see people from U.P. and Bihar crowding it. And yes, the people from Bihar and UP who take P.G. or paying guest accomodations stink. No, I am not joking they really do. 15 people live in one room. One Bhaiyya goes back to his village and brings 10 more with him. And they are the people who are responsible for Paan spits on roads. I may not like them, but I don’t hate them.
    I also understand the point that they do not gel with the local population. There is a phrase “When in Rome do as the Romans do” but for them the phrase is “When we are in Rome the Romans should do as we do” Yes this is irritating, very irritating.
    We should understand that we live in a free country. Everyone has a right to move anywhere in this nation. And we should also understand that there are people different, very different from us but they also have the right to exist freely. If I don’t like something about you, does it give me the right to hit you and then force you into doing my will. If I try to ask you politely and make you look from my point of you then, it would be better. Otherwise the hatred will increase among us.
    Also note that these people are not looting from us. They are in fact increasing our economy. They live in Delhi and do job here. Yes, they send money to their families but don’t they spend money here to live. If we start driving everyone out then things won’t work. Remember, United we stand divided we fall. If only Maharashtra or Punjab prospers then nothing great will happen. If India prospers then Maharashtra will also prosper and so will everyone else.
    Yes, I understand that we can not say that you should be the only one to compromise your values. The “bhaiyas” should also understand and change some of their habits, merge into the society. But will abusing them help?
    This year in January I visited Aurangabad, which is a beautiful city in Maharashtra. Saw the caves. I have never been to Mumbai and wanted to visit it for about a week, see the various sights there, but seeing your hostility towards North Indians, I am having second thoughts. Would I be unwelcome in my own country? If you visit or come to Delhi, would you like a reception where we say that you are an outsider and are not welcome?

    Remember, hatred breeds more hatred.

  12. Ok Prateek i never knew u were out of Mumbai. And im well aware of UP-Bihari invasion in Delhi too. But pl understand that Delhi being a capital of nation and having no real regional identity of its own, the problems u face bcoz of Biharis are not emotional. Whereas in MH, of course HUGE not mega migration is problematic not only bcoz their diff lifestyle but also local language of Mumbai is not Hindi but Marathi. Importantly, its not only Up-Biharis but all non-maharashtrians who are averse and antagonising local population and culture. In fact i say, the white collared,elitist anglophiles who luv to think that locals (marathis) are goondas, uneducated donkeys and hate everything related to our language and culture.i am not ashamed to say that i most certainly hate them. I would never respect anyone not gelling with local language and populace. The author, though of marathi origin, seems to be catering that audiences and surprisingly not aware of primary facts abt Marathi and Maharashtra.I think he’s apologetic of being a Maharashtrian.

    And i didnt mean to say that Up-Biharis loot Mumbai. Its the central govt of India which loots us. And we marathis dont really classify punjus in north indians. Bhayyas or north indians in MNS context means hindi speaking public of UP,Bihar.Lastly i think we shud stop being over-patriotic and jingoistic about India. The nation full of paradoxes and ironies. Ppl tend to emotionally blackmail citing ‘we r one’, ‘india is great’ etc which i think majority of indians dont give a damn to. We all are hindus/muslims/marathis/gujartis/sikhs/rajputs first and indians next.
    And thanks to this blog i found many other intresting blogs like http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/give-some-credit-to-maharashtra/ this.

  13. Mr Vijay,

    Maharashtra was formed in 1960 after a struggle that included deaths of 105 marathi people. After this, it was entirely upto the Maharashtrians to build their state the way they wanted. They could have taken the control of Mumbai in their hands. But Maharashtrians were busy watching Hindi movies 🙂
    In short, Maharashtrians are themselves responsible for their sorry state. It’s not right to blame the non-Maharashtrians.
    You cannot expect non-marathis to respect and speak marathi language when maharashtrians themselves are more than willing to ditch marathi in favour of Hindi. Some years ago, my organization had sent me to Kolkata for a training. We were a group of 6 people..the remaining 5 people were all local Bongs..and they continuously kept talking amongst themselves in Bengali. They didn’t pay any heed to my requests to switch to Hindi or English. I was left alone during the 1 month training. Fortunately the trainers spoke English. But I didn’t dislike or hate the attitude of those Bengali people. If they start switching to Hindi and English to accommodate every non-Bengali that visits them, then soon they too will be like Marathis..outnumbered and humiliated in their own home state. I was rather amused by their fierce loyalty to their mother tongue.

    In short, loyalty to one’s mother tongue has to be in one’s blood. If it’s not there, it cannot be forcibly created. Today the sorry state of marathi is the creation of maharashtrians themselves, and it’s not right to blame ‘outsiders’.

  14. Mr. Matkari, my culture is not much different from yours and tolerance, the language maybe different but bottom line is all cultures some where are inter related and influenced by each other.

    You don’t consider Punjabis as north Indians, why??? Punjab and the punjabi population is major chunk of it.. anyway I am not getting to another region debate here…

    I have been to Mumbai, loved the city and yes the people even more who were so warm, welcoming! My sister is married to a Marathi ( and my brother in law doesn’t fuss about the whole issue), a few of my good frenz are Marathis and from the city..

    We live in a free country and everyone is free to live where they want to…You were talking about opening borders with foreign lands but still want Mumbai to be closed for ‘we outsiders’… I got nothing else to say… BTW Marathis for 1200 yrs and India only for 50… Please check your facts here.. Maharastra was never an independent country but always a part of India. They were different provinces but belonged and still do and will in future as well to the same land/country.

  15. I will not comment on Marathi culture or anything now. But Vijay, if you think that the “Bhaiyya Immigration” is happening only in Maharashtra then I am sorry you are totally wrong. Even in Punjab (the state to which I belong) the population of “Bhaiyyas” is increasing day by day. You can see posters of Bhojpuri movies and celebrations of Chat Puja in the heart of Punjab. Yes, sometimes we do not like it and feel that they are invading us or showing their strength, but still does it give me or any other Punjabi the right to kill them and throw them out of Punjab? Please answer this question.

    We can not and should not hold grudges. When the partition happened the states of Bengal and Punjab felt the whole brunt of it. Many people lost everything to come to this country. The slaughter was such that in major parts of Punjab (I don’t know about Bengal) people hated Muslims to such an extent that they threw them out. After so many years of independence, some change has begin now when the Muslim population in Punjab has begin increasing. After so many years of hatred, a chance of a new friendship to develop things from a new beginning has started. Do you think we should throw them out because of what happened in 1947 and in the wars after that?

    You said about the culture of Delhi. Delhi is one the most ancient city in India. It’s History and culture begins even before 300 B.C. Sanskrit was the most ancient language used in Delhi. But for most of its later history the court languages have been Persian. The other languages that were spoken are Urdu and Punjabi. Yes, Punjabi was written in the Persian scripe earlier until the Gurmukhi script was invented later but these were the languages of this area. Hindi was spoken in the area of UP, bhojpuri in Bihar area. If you want to see the culture of Delhi then come and visit it. There are 1200 heritage buildings and 175 monuments which have been given the status of Heritage sites. Even the cuisine of Delhi is more related to Punjabi, Afghanistani and Persian Cuisine. But nowadays we see so many South Indian stalls, Pao Bhaji, Gujrati food etc. Should we ban them in Delhi?

  16. You were talking about opening borders with foreign lands
    >>There’s no our land and foreign lands. If ur hell bent shoving Indian-ness in our mouth and free movement why not start by free movement in india by all human and animalkind.

    Maharastra was never an independent country but always a part of India
    >>So when did india became an independent country only after 1947 right? Before that we all were part of Bharat each province having its own space and federal status. We were not stripped because we r indians!

    @Prateek
    Now be practical and tell me, how do we react when outsiders are overpowering, outnumbering and outsmarting us? Shud we see our language and culture be butchered in our own state? Some maxmayur says that Mumbai actually belonged2 Konkanis and Maharashtra has no history but a whim of a ‘local’ leader!
    Even though ur state has undergone lots of bkloody episodes the ‘punjabiyat’ is alive and kicking, isnt it? whats so wrong if we want the same for marathi asmita?

  17. Kay matkari rao, bhaltech utsahat aahaat vatta. Aadhich Paaus, tyat tumchi houss.
    ——————————————-
    Matkari saheb, tell me one thing; I live in Boriwali and I totally hate Ambarnath people working in Boriwali. They have been stealing jobs from local Boriwali folks and I think we should do something against them.

    Kay mhanta?

  18. I’ve read about the history of Maharashtra as much as I could. But history means nothing to me. I was born in independent India. I will live and die with that identity. I was proud to be born in a Maharashtrian Brahmin family… and I’m proud to be a part of the Indian constitution.

    You all have proved that regional boundaries are hard to breach. Thanks for quoting the example Pratap. Next time try going to Chennai and speak Hindi. Do let me know the experience. Gosh! we are behaving like the street dogs who fiercely guard their respective territories from fellow dogs. This has to end some day. God knows if it will…

    Thank you every one for participating the the debate. I’m closing this post for any more comments. If you still have some thing to say, please call me or send me an email.

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